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tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that meeting? >> well, i think that the decision to move the forum for the negotiations to the senate was a necessary one. i have a lot of confidence in harry reid's negotiating ability. mitch mcconnell is a veteran negotiator, and i think there's a far better prospect of something being worked out in the senate than there was dealing with speaker boehner and his completely dysfunctional house republican party. >> sure. well, abiding by convention and of course protocol, the senate won't return until sunday. will there be enough time for the senate leaders to really craft a deal that is substantiative and makes a difference,
tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that...
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>> i think there's a chance he will br just right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was hopeful and optimistic that they could get a deal that they could pass. the reason that that could happen if mitch mcconnell lets it happen, john boehner may feel no option but to put that on the floor for pass adge whether or not most republicans are for it. that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the f
>> i think there's a chance he will br just right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was...
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. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they're extended by 2020, the bush-era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insist that taxes go up for the wealthy but stay in place permanently for
. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years...
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gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> port: thpresident declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first, but he
gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan...
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gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> reporter: the president declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first b
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cliff and what it is going to take to get a deal done. our gop and democratic strategists are standing by to dive into that debate. >> and christmas is over, but the deals are still out there. you'll find out what is expected to drop in price as we head into the new year. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> back to our top story, we are just three days way from reaching the fiscal cliff -- away from reaching the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama held talks with congressional leaders at the white house. the president says he is hopeful a deal can be reached in order to avoid automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january 1st. senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell are trying to hammer out a deal the house might approve, but the house is ticking. joining us now are our political strategists. brendan, the president today said is he going to have senator mcconnell, senator reid start off on this package, but doesn't that eliminate a big player in this, which is john boehner, if this has to get passed through the house? >>
cliff and what it is going to take to get a deal done. our gop and democratic strategists are standing by to dive into that debate. >> and christmas is over, but the deals are still out there. you'll find out what is expected to drop in price as we head into the new year. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> back to our top story, we are just three days way from reaching the fiscal cliff -- away from reaching the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama held talks...
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. >> well, if we go sailing over that fiscal cliff and nothing is done, in the next few weeks you could see a smaller paycheck, depending upon how your withholdings are handled. there are so many things you need to look at as far as your income taxes. the lowest income category could be hit the hardest. that 10% tax bracket goes away all together. so the poor insist of the poor could really take a hit. so it's really time to sit down, look at your situation, start planning, don't panic. and hopefully some sort of deal will be worked out in the final hours. >> heather: plan to have a little less money in your pocketbook. what other factors do we need to consider beyond taxes in our paychecks? >> we've talked a lot about long-term capital gains. that's something you need to be aware of. any sort of gains on dividends is something you'll need to look at in 2013. we've also talked about the alternative minimum tax. you've been hearing about the amt. this is something that came into play in 1969 to make sure that the rich, if you will, played their fair share of taxes. in fact, it's hit the
. >> well, if we go sailing over that fiscal cliff and nothing is done, in the next few weeks you could see a smaller paycheck, depending upon how your withholdings are handled. there are so many things you need to look at as far as your income taxes. the lowest income category could be hit the hardest. that 10% tax bracket goes away all together. so the poor insist of the poor could really take a hit. so it's really time to sit down, look at your situation, start planning, don't panic....
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they passed a bill months ago to avoid this fiscal cliff. now, that bill has been come meetly ignored by -- completely ignored by senate democrats and by the president. number five the worse part of all there is nothing here that the president is proprosing that deals with the real clear present danger that america now faces. reckless borrowing, reckless spending generational theft that brings america to the point of bankruptcy. the president has given the country over $6 trillion in new debt. trillion dollars deficits as far as the eye can see and all he wants to fight for is higher taxes that will fund a mere 8 and a half days of government. frankly nothing but a pathetic disgrace. you the american people deserve a government that lives within its means. you deserve a government that is not obsessed with using your money to accumulate their power. it is time for americans to understand the simple truth of what is going on here. a truth by the way that an abusively biased news media just ignores. joining us now with reaction as america is o
they passed a bill months ago to avoid this fiscal cliff. now, that bill has been come meetly ignored by -- completely ignored by senate democrats and by the president. number five the worse part of all there is nothing here that the president is proprosing that deals with the real clear present danger that america now faces. reckless borrowing, reckless spending generational theft that brings america to the point of bankruptcy. the president has given the country over $6 trillion in new debt....
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gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a whit
gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan...
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. >> as the country moves closer to going over the fiscal cliff, the partisan rhetoric reaches new lows. can washington hammer out a deal before it's too late. the american people should be outraged at this because it is disgraceful. it is purposely misleading. >> shocking developments at the state department. the four officials supposedly out of their jobs after the benghazi terror attack reportedly still on the government payroll. how can that be? [chanting] protect the constitution. >> the liberal "new york times" says last month's election significantly weakened the tea party. is that true? we will have a debate. chanting] >> u.s.a. >> caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> i'm greg gutfeld in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us. our top story tonight, the last ditch effort to avert the fiscal cliff. president obama met with congressional leaders for several hours at the white house today to try to hammer out a deal before taxes go up on more than 160 million americans. after the meeting, the president presented a new plan to avoid the cl
. >> as the country moves closer to going over the fiscal cliff, the partisan rhetoric reaches new lows. can washington hammer out a deal before it's too late. the american people should be outraged at this because it is disgraceful. it is purposely misleading. >> shocking developments at the state department. the four officials supposedly out of their jobs after the benghazi terror attack reportedly still on the government payroll. how can that be? [chanting] protect the...
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what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senator reid and senator mcconnell, than i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class f
what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john...
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not the fiscal cliff. that's the debt ceiling debate we were talking about. what he is saying is, give us the free checkbook, the additional trillions we want to spend, it has to happen through the house. he's taking a shot at the republicans. that's different from the fiscal cliff. >> well, they are intertwined. i mean, they are not separate entities and the issue here is the language that he used. he conflated republicans holding their own children hostage and then murdering them. imagine if a republican had said something like that. but you don't hear about it. you hear about it here -- >> because we put it here on fox news. i like to play the game deal or no deal -- >> taken. >> sorry. >> juliette, we are going to begin with you. >> okay. >> let me know what you think -- deal or no deal by the deadline? >> no deal like lindsay graham says. the meeting was political theater. >> andrea. >> no deal. he doesn't want one. [laughter] >> unfortunately, there probably will be something in early january -- >> with the parachute or not? >> it will be, whatever it i
not the fiscal cliff. that's the debt ceiling debate we were talking about. what he is saying is, give us the free checkbook, the additional trillions we want to spend, it has to happen through the house. he's taking a shot at the republicans. that's different from the fiscal cliff. >> well, they are intertwined. i mean, they are not separate entities and the issue here is the language that he used. he conflated republicans holding their own children hostage and then murdering them....
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we are talking about senate negotiating the fiscal cliff deal. the work they're still trying to get done. the first call comes from lee in florida. caller: i tried to call in yesterday, but everybody was concerned about this matter. let me give you a website that i have been e-mail in over 400 people. it is the website -- you go to search "cause of war." this is the biggest cover up by all of the politicians of their in washington, d.c., including both bushes and of mr. obama. host: and what does this have to do with the senate negotiating a fiscal of deal? caller: let me tell you something. if you go to the website listed on the left and upper side, united states -- each tax coming out of each state is going towards the or. -- war. i believe all of these politicians, mayors, governors should take a half cut pay to pay down the deficit. host: we are going to move on to darwin on the line for independents. caller: it is like the pentelikon, back in 1968 i was even fighting with the pentagon over budgets. you always had to have everything kept the
we are talking about senate negotiating the fiscal cliff deal. the work they're still trying to get done. the first call comes from lee in florida. caller: i tried to call in yesterday, but everybody was concerned about this matter. let me give you a website that i have been e-mail in over 400 people. it is the website -- you go to search "cause of war." this is the biggest cover up by all of the politicians of their in washington, d.c., including both bushes and of mr. obama. host:...
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cliff to convince investors that a deal can get done. so at this point, the market doesn't really want a band-aid or so-called framework deal. in fact, one trader told me that it would almost be better if we went over the cliff, because that would give the markets some certainty. they would at least know what to expect. that is, of course, instead of a band-aid measure, because the worry there is that it would just kick the can down the road. now, this is usually the time of year when we see what's known as a santa claus rally, when investors push up stocks an average of 1.5% in the last few days of the year. and that kind of rally has come to wall street over the past four years. the santa claus rally still has some time to make it, though, with the market wrapping up 2012 on monday with a full day of trading. now, the major averages are, though, on track to make some solid gains for the year. you look at 2012 heading into monday for the dow industrials, they're up 6%. the nasdaq is up more than 13%. and the s&p 500, that's up 1 1% for
cliff to convince investors that a deal can get done. so at this point, the market doesn't really want a band-aid or so-called framework deal. in fact, one trader told me that it would almost be better if we went over the cliff, because that would give the markets some certainty. they would at least know what to expect. that is, of course, instead of a band-aid measure, because the worry there is that it would just kick the can down the road. now, this is usually the time of year when we see...
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. >> if we get some deal with the fiscal cliff which i think we will and our politicians are the worst even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut. they will get this done sometime by january 15th or something like that. if they do not extend the debt ceiling you will have close to armageddon at the end of february and march. adam: spencer i take issue what about our politicians being the worst. our congress is the best congress money can buy. don't forget it. jonathan he is talking about armageddon because of the debt ceiling. i would be terrified if i were not in the market putting my toe in this. there will have to be buying opportunity if people panic and sell. >> which market, adam? that can be the story of 2003 and headlines are obviously scary they have a tendency to sell stocks and buy bonds. that is the safe move. i think the reverse will be true in 2013 and stocks will look quite attractive versus bonds. a highly manipulated market government stepped in and tried to hold interest rates low. once inflation starts to show its head, i think bonds, supposedly the safe asse
. >> if we get some deal with the fiscal cliff which i think we will and our politicians are the worst even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut. they will get this done sometime by january 15th or something like that. if they do not extend the debt ceiling you will have close to armageddon at the end of february and march. adam: spencer i take issue what about our politicians being the worst. our congress is the best congress money can buy. don't forget it. jonathan he is...
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we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have got to meet this deny. now what we're hearing, it is not that bad, we have time. >> what jessica said about the term paper, getting it done in time. you know what happens if you don't get it done in time? you get an f. and a lot of american voters are going to say an "f" to all the politicians if they don't get it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved in the weeks ahead. but this is kind of a black eye for the political system. here we are, two or three days ahead from the start of the year. without any american business investor, or worker, this just is not a very good way to run a country. and it is almost like banana republic politics. >> my dad used to say, no way to run a railroad. or government. let's talk about a couple of things, the whole idea that tax rates on everyone will go up. does the irs or the treasury department have the ability to sort of say look, here is some guidance? keep withholding where it is? >>
we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have got to meet this deny. now what we're hearing, it is not that bad, we have time. >> what jessica said about the term paper, getting it done in time. you know what happens if you don't get it done in time? you get an f. and a lot of american voters are going to say an "f" to all the politicians if they don't get it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved...
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he feels that a deal on averting this fiscal cliff might get done. here's the president. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. money is going to get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. i think you could qualify it. he said optimistic and came back later in that speech and said mod testily optimistic. >> juliet: doesn't that suggest that he is backtracking? >> clayton: don't know what's going to happen at the end of the day. in this meeting as dave was talking about back and forth the ball is in the senate's court right now mitch mcconnell said we will take it we don't want to go back to the house where that was a mess over in the house. we will take it. we will will try. this the president said you try this if you can't get anything done i want a straight up or down vote on those making over $250,000 a year and some of the unemployment benefits for 2 million individuals will stil
he feels that a deal on averting this fiscal cliff might get done. here's the president. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. money is going to get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. i think you could qualify it. he said optimistic and came back later in that speech and said mod testily optimistic. >> juliet:...
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. >> the last minute move to save us from the fiscal cliff. and, a shooting inside a politician. -- police station. officers down and a suspect dead. >> i saw them throw somebody into an ambulance. >> in moments, what we know about how this happened. and on very thin ice. >> the deeper you got out, the more ice was cracking. you just couldn't get to them. >> the rescue mission to pluck a man and a dog from a frozen river. i'm harris faulkner in for shepard smith. and president obama says tonight there is still time to get a deal done before we fall off the fiscal cliff. and he demanded congress take action now before it's too late. the president spoke in the white house briefing room just about an hour ago now. he was visibly tense. frustration in his voice. >> america wonders why it is in this town for some reason you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we are now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-infl
. >> the last minute move to save us from the fiscal cliff. and, a shooting inside a politician. -- police station. officers down and a suspect dead. >> i saw them throw somebody into an ambulance. >> in moments, what we know about how this happened. and on very thin ice. >> the deeper you got out, the more ice was cracking. you just couldn't get to them. >> the rescue mission to pluck a man and a dog from a frozen river. i'm harris faulkner in for shepard smith....
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what speaker boehner has done is create a situation in which we are going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats they will not be ready for it. it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge senator reed to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike and extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance for two million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more cooperation on deficit reduction and economic growth. guys, i can hea
what speaker boehner has done is create a situation in which we are going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats they will not be ready for it. it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can...
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all of it is at stake if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that lawmakers built. they set the tuesday deadline, they knew it was coming for more than a year. but even now, they have done little to agree to a package before that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what's coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members, well, they woet be back until sunday. this afternoon, house and senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards, president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner who had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell to work out a deal and then present it to a house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and
all of it is at stake if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that lawmakers built. they set the tuesday deadline, they knew it was coming for more than a year. but even now, they have done little to agree to a package before that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what's coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members, well, they woet be back until sunday....
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gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a it
gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan...
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the good news, you're not likely to feel any fall off of the cliff if they get something done in the first few days of 2013. >>> and for some, the biggest objection to the fiscal cliff is the cuts to project defense spending. they warned it's bad news for national security. peter deucey explains who mean affected. >> reporter: last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff, there was a word he did not say and that word was sequester. the sequester would automatically cut more than $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs and now as the deadline draws close, experts are looking at the cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about heir safety of the service members. >> and that is going to affect the operational force deployed in terms of its ability to maintain its equipment to quiet re-- get repair parts and that is around the world, not just in afghanistan being reduced and it would impact on the training of the force and the preparedness to cond
the good news, you're not likely to feel any fall off of the cliff if they get something done in the first few days of 2013. >>> and for some, the biggest objection to the fiscal cliff is the cuts to project defense spending. they warned it's bad news for national security. peter deucey explains who mean affected. >> reporter: last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff, there was a word he did not say and that word was...
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. >> and to the point and avoid the fiscal cliff. >> kelly: but to mark's point, angela, senator mitch mcconnell is known for having good brinksmanship and getting it deal done. >> we're on the brink. >> that's what i said earlier in the interview, we're going to get a deal done, it's going to be because of mitch mcconnell and boehner working with the democrats that we don't go over the fiscal cliff, however, republicans are going to have to acquiesce, we will have some tax hikes, i think probably 750,000 and above i think that's the number, but what republicans are holding back the debt ceiling debate and cutti cutti cutting entitlement programs and they're going to use that later in the year. >> kelly: mark, the final word. >> if angela's prediction sort of come through-- and i hope it does, the republicans and senate negotiate, and republicans and congress will be responsible for the largest tax increst on all americans in modern american history and that would be unfortunate and soon talk about obama tax cuts when we talk about the middle class america. >> kelly: and the 113th cong
. >> and to the point and avoid the fiscal cliff. >> kelly: but to mark's point, angela, senator mitch mcconnell is known for having good brinksmanship and getting it deal done. >> we're on the brink. >> that's what i said earlier in the interview, we're going to get a deal done, it's going to be because of mitch mcconnell and boehner working with the democrats that we don't go over the fiscal cliff, however, republicans are going to have to acquiesce, we will have some...
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so we've got to get this done. >> in the event congress does not make a deal, here's how the fiscal cliff could affect you. first, income taxes will go up substantially. a middle class family will pay about $2,000 more per year. gas prices will likely fall because individuals will have to spend less on fuel. you could see longer lines at the airport because budget cuts would force the tsa to cut its staff and retail prices may fall because declining consumer confidence would push retailers to offer discounts to get shoppers into their stores. >> the bowl game is all decked-out for the game this afternoon against the u.s. navy academy and arizona state. everyone's spirits are high and the game is bringing a boost for the local economy. >> many are here for an extended weekend. >> two teams really excited to be here and their fans are excited to be here. gosh, i think we are filling up all the hotels in san francisco. >> 33,000 tickets have been sold for the match-up. at&t park can take 40,000 so not at capacity yet. organizers believe it will be another banner year for the hunger goal. it'
so we've got to get this done. >> in the event congress does not make a deal, here's how the fiscal cliff could affect you. first, income taxes will go up substantially. a middle class family will pay about $2,000 more per year. gas prices will likely fall because individuals will have to spend less on fuel. you could see longer lines at the airport because budget cuts would force the tsa to cut its staff and retail prices may fall because declining consumer confidence would push...
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in time to avoid the fiscal cliff, and that's what our focus issen ob this morning. for his part, president obama says he's modestly optimistic they can work things out. even if a deal is thrown together, senator harry reid says what they come up with could be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. bringen in independent new york stock exchange trader joining us from new york. good to see you. >> good to see you, alison. thanks for having me. >> as you said, washington has been kicking the can down the road. so what are the chances of a real deal going through at the very last minute? things sound a little more optimistic last night, if you listened to president obama. >> i think they have to sound optimistic. the last thing they want to do is not sound optimistic. here's the problem. we've come right to the 11th hour. the fact there's going to be a substantive deal that comes out in the 11th hour is probably nailed to zero. in my sense, it's easier to go over the cliff. then there's clarity, right? taxes up, spending cut. the market will know what is goi
in time to avoid the fiscal cliff, and that's what our focus issen ob this morning. for his part, president obama says he's modestly optimistic they can work things out. even if a deal is thrown together, senator harry reid says what they come up with could be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. bringen in independent new york stock exchange trader joining us from new york. good to see you. >> good to see you, alison. thanks for having me. >> as you said, washington...
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lawmakers have just three days left to get a deal done in time to avoid the fiscal cliff. even if a deal is thrown together at the 11th hour, senate majority leader harry reid says what they come up with will be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. i spoke with independent new york stock exchange trader kenny polkari earlier and asked them how wall street is reacting to the looming fiscal cliff. >> we've come right to the 11th hour. the -- the fact that there's going to be a substantive deal that comes out of this in the 11th hour is probably nil to zero, right? essentially in my sense, it's easier to go over the cliff. then there's clarity, right? taxes will go up, spending will get cut. the market will know what is going to happen. it can only get better from there because then you'll get legislators that come to the table, that try to cut taxes and raise some spending, and they'll argue it from a positive point of view and stand up and say, rah-rah, look what we, did right? it won't get any worse if we go over the cliff. if there's a bandaid, it leaves co
lawmakers have just three days left to get a deal done in time to avoid the fiscal cliff. even if a deal is thrown together at the 11th hour, senate majority leader harry reid says what they come up with will be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. i spoke with independent new york stock exchange trader kenny polkari earlier and asked them how wall street is reacting to the looming fiscal cliff. >> we've come right to the 11th hour. the -- the fact that there's going to be...
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just as they have irresponsibility on the fiscal cliff they have an responsibility here on sandy. this should give impetus. why not me give some other people a first chance? >> comwe are going to introducet early next year. tax measures are usually done separately. we will be doing that early next here. that is how it has worked and previous disasters. >> they said they are working on an agreement made your next week. they make sure the package as small enough so you have enough pieces to trade with. >> we do not believe we should be trading debt limits. plan with the full credit makes no sense. we ought to do the debt limit on its own. to say we're not going to pay the bill does not make much sense. as for what is happening now, i have spoken to both leader harry reid and leader mcconnell. today agree it was a very good meeting. there is real good potential. we await any proposals to modify that. >> what if they want to use whas debt limit? >> i do not agree with that. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]
just as they have irresponsibility on the fiscal cliff they have an responsibility here on sandy. this should give impetus. why not me give some other people a first chance? >> comwe are going to introducet early next year. tax measures are usually done separately. we will be doing that early next here. that is how it has worked and previous disasters. >> they said they are working on an agreement made your next week. they make sure the package as small enough so you have enough...
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cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. the president's proposal to raise tax on the top 2% of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. in fact, the president's tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate i
cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit...